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zuijin，liangweizhangqibeiqunchaodemingrenfanhongle，yigeshibeiwangyoudiaokanleshijinian“yatoujiaojiaozhu”deliuxiaoqing，lingyigeshicengbeitucaoyounidezuojiadabing。liuxiaoqingbeiqiannanyoupuhunneichugui、“74suirengzaimangzhetanlianai，you8genanyou”defeiwenchongshangresou，wangyoumenbingmeiyouqianzeta，ershiduitazaiqingganfangmiandesongchigan、pannisatuodexinggedajiazanshang，。

dabingyeshitongyang。tazaiqunianhaizhishiwangluoshangdexiaoliao，jinriqueyouyuzaizhiboshangyoumozhenchengdebiaoxianchuquan。zaizhibozhong，dabingduixunqiubangzhudewangyouyiyihuifu：zhuangxiubuyaozhaoshuren、tuixiuhouqunagechengshishenghuozuihao、zhonglecaipiaoqianwanbiechuangye……dajiafaxian，dabingshenshangdeduozhongshenfen“minyaogeshou、diaojiushi、laobeibaoke”bingbuzhishikuakuaqitan，ershi“zhendong”。zheiweizuozhekansiyouni，shizezaijingshenshangzhanzainianqingrenzheibian，biruzailianmaizhongbiaoshi，nianqingrenbuxiangjiehunshisangshixiwangdebiaoxian，chijinhonglide70houbuyinggaibipoernvjiehun。

youqudeshi，wulunshiliuxiaoqinghaishidabing，tamendoucengjingshiguoqi、buruliudedaimingci，zhangqiyilaibeiwangluoqiguanhua，rujinquebeizhongxinxinshangshenzhipengshangshentan，yongyoulebushao“neijiufen”，zheisihushuomingwangluoqingxudeshuiwenzhengzaifashengbianhua。zaizheiliangzewangluoredianzhong，lingyigezhidezhuyidecishi“huorengan”，xuduorenjuedeliuxiaoqingdeganaiganhenzaimanjiedaxiaosandewangluoyulunzhongyouruyiguqingliu；dabingyebeishiwei“xiachenshichangdelidan”，mianduiwangyoudelaixinqiuzhumeiyoushuojiao，ershibaoyiqinqieposhidejianyi。

01 大冰没变，什么变了？

徐鲁青：dabinghenxihuanqiangdiao“jianghu”zheigeci，tajingchangshuozijishigezoujianghude，80houyoujinyonggulongdenggeleixiakexiaoshuodeqingjie，huijuedeyouqingyouyihejianghuqishirenhenzhongyaodeyibufen。suoyidabingzaishulihuixieyixiexianzaidulaihenshaojiandeshiqing。birutayougemaimaobideqinqi，tamamagentashuo，zheigeqinqishenghuohenkunnan，nichumingle，yaobangbangta，yushitajiuzhijiezaishulixie：woshushushizuomaobide，ruguonimenxiangmaimaobi，keyiquzhaota，tadeweixinhaoshixxx。tahaizaishulidingzhu，ruguoyaoqumaidehua，buyaogentashushushuomai“dabingtongkuan”，yinweineikuanshishushusongtade，bijiaogui，dajiamaijibenkuanjiukeyile。

dabingfanhongkenengshiyinweitachongshangdejianghuqixianzaiyijinghenshaojianle。zaidabingdeyicizhibozhong，yougezaihenandenanshengxiangzisha，lianxianledabinggentagaobie，tahuodeneijushi“rangwoxiongdidainiquchiyiwanhuimian”，haijianyitachuhaiquzuohaiyuandengdeng。

tayiqianbeichaoxiaoshiyinweiyouniba，bijiaohuodeyipianwenzhangjiao《guai，momotou》，qingjieshitacongshandongdianshitailizhihou，yigetongshixiaoguniangmeiniandouhuijitafasigezi“haohaode，ge”，tajiuhui“guai，momotou”。

尹清露：zhiqiandabingbeichaofengjiushiyinweiyouni，biruduinvxinghuikebandijiao“yatou”。tadefanhongrangwofaxian，xingbieshijiaobuzaishiweiyideshijiao，yebuzaishidajiawanquantouruzhuyilidedifang，zheixiepinglunyebunengyangaidabingrenhenhao、jiyuledajiaqingxujiazhizheijianshi。

ganggangluqingshuodaodabinghenzhuzhongqinggan、yiqihejianghuqi，zheixiezaijintianshihenhanjiande，tadezhibohuirangwolianxiangdaozhangxuefeng，tamenliangdoushihuijiandingdijichuyixieshiyongxingjianyideren。xiangzishadenanshengxiangdabingqiuzhushi，dabinghenjiandingdirangnanshenglikechuhaidanghaiyuan，buyaozailudishanggongzuo；haiyouyigeayixiangdabingtiwentuixiuzhihoudeshenghuo，tajidejianyishiquxishuangbannamoudidangbaojie。wojuedezheixiejianyishihenanweirenxinde，yinweitashiyigehenjuti、henqueqiedexuanxiang，ruguowoshineigeayi，wobuquhaoxiangdouyoudiankuiduidabingzheimejutidejianyi，jiusuanbuquneiligongzuo，douhuiquneilikanyixia。dabinghezhangxuefengbutaiyiyangdedianzaiyu：tadejianyibaoliuleyixiezaonianjianshiyuyuanfangdelangman，jianzhishichuodaoledangdairendetongdian，dajiajixiangyaoyigedudingdedongxi，youxiangyaobeijiyuqingxujiazhi。

tidaodabinglieleyichuantitlebeichaofengzheijianshi，taqishiyeshuole，zijiyuanbenkeyizhaomingrenlaiweizijibeishu，danshitameiyou。jintiandajiatingtazhiboshicaifaxian，qishizheixietouxianyedoubushijiade，birutashuozijishi“shuoshuren”，taqueshigushijiangdehenhao；tashuozijihuigezhongjineng，tazaizhibojianyedequezaizhidaoyishusheng、zhidaobierenzhuangxiudengdeng。wojuededabingcaishixiantiangaochouxiangshengti，gaochouxiangdagaideyisishi：woyongyizhonghenyansudeyuqibiaoda，danqishishizaikaiwanxiao，ruguobierentingbudongwodechouxiang，jiuhuijuedezheigerenhaosha，zheigerenshibushiyoudianwenti。dandangshimeirendongdabingdeyoumo。

董子琪：是不是像加个狗头？

尹清露：dui，kexineishihoumeiyougoutouzheigefuhao。

徐鲁青：dabingfanhonghaiyouyigeyuanyinshipingminhua。xianzaidajiaderizidouguodehencan，shenzhihulianwangshangyoudianchoufuhuochoujingyingdequxiang，erdajiaduidabingdehaoganjiulaiziyu——tahenpingminhua，tagenputongrenshizhanzaiyiqide。wangshanghaishuotayiqianqimotuochequjishanqudeduzhesongshu，yiji“tabuxianghanhanheguojingmingzhijiecongwenxuejinruyingshidazhuantezhuan”。zheixiehuayuhedazhongduizhangxuefengdepingjiayouxiangsixing，tamenbushineixiezhanzaigaochudezhishifenzihejingying，ershigensuoweideputongrenzhanzaiyiqide。

尹清露：qiebushuodabingzheiyangzuodaodishibushitazhenshidexiangfa，zhishaotabiaoxianchulaishizheiyangzide。qunianwozaiwangshangshuadaohenduo“bingxue”，jinniandabingmingshengfanzhuandeshihouwohaitingjingyade，wangshangyoumeitishizheiyangpingjiade：dabingfeichangminrui，tazaihaodeshidaijinjinzhuazhulenianqingrenkanshijiedeyuwang，zaihuaideshidai，youminruidibuzhuodaolenianqingrenqiuanwendexuqiu。

zheiduanhuashihenyoudaoli，danwozaixiang，qunian“bingxue”dahuodeshihou，dazhongqingxuyeshixiangqiuanwende，genjinnianbingmeiyoufashengtebiedadebianhua。qunianwodudaoleyipianguanyuwanyanhuidehedabingchouxiangxiaoliaodewenhuapinglun，tandaodajiaxuanyang“bingxue”shichuyumouzhongjuewang，tongguoxiaoliaodedaoduanzanyoulianjiadeshenjingciji，congergengshunhuadizaiyalizhonglaozuo，danshenghuobenzhibingmeiyoufashengshenmebianhua。neime，daodishishenmefashengbianhuale？

wozuijinzaiduribenxuezheyuyechangkuanxiede《00niandaidexiangxiangli》，tatidaoribenyejingliguoxiangsishiqi。congshangshiji90niandaikaishi，dajiayouyizhongtuisuo、baoshoudexintai，zhidaohoumianfaxian，renyurenzhijiandeqingganlianjierengranhenzhongyao。huanyanzhi，xianqianchuyumeiyouwuyudeshidai，zhixuyaoquxiaofeichouxiangdexiaoliao。danshihoulaidajiafaxian，womenhaishixuyaoxushide，erxushilaiziyurendeguanxixing。zhibuguo，xianzairenhexushidoubuwending，fanershihenquedingdexushihuirangrenganjuehenhao，jishinineixinshenchubingbuyidingxiangxinta。zheijiunengshuomingdabingzhibojianweishenmehuole，shouxiantajirentigonglerenyurenzhijiandehudongwennuan，qicitatigongleyixiebuyidingyouxiaodan“youyong”dejianyi，yejiushigezhongxiaoxushi。

02 商讨人设，翻转人设

潘文捷：大冰和刘晓庆的反转让我想到美国媒介研究学者亨利·zhanjinsitichude“wenbendaoliezhe”zheigeshuofa。shijishang，dabingzuoweiyigezuojia，womenyinggaiguanzhuhepingjiatadewenxuezuopin，liuxiaoqingzuoweiyigeyanyuan，womenyinggaiqupingjiatadeyanjiheyingshizuopin，danzuijindelangchaoqishidoumeiyouguanzhuzheixiefangmian。xianzaideyizhongqushishi：wangyoumendepingjiayutamendezuopinbenshenwuguan，yutamenchengxiandeziwowuguan，zhiyuwangyoujita/tafuyuderensheyouguan。

liru，yiqianmingxinghuojingjigongsihuijimingxingbenrenanpaiyigerenshe，danshifensizairenshedequedingshangchuyuqiangshidiwei，keyitongguogezhongwenbenchuangzuo、taolundengshuzilaodongqujiangouchutamenzijimanyiderenshe。jiyuci，liuxiaoqinghedabingzuizhongdexingxiangyeweibishitamenzijibenyiyaochengxiande，ershifensihuodazhongshangtaochulaideyigejieguo。zheishihou，dabingzuoweiyigezuojia、zhuchiren，liuxiaoqingzuoweiyigeyingshicongyezhe，tamenyebixumianduixianzaidezheigezhuangkuang，yejiushishuo，doudeyimouzhongrenshelaikaizhanzijidegongzuole。

zheizhongrenshejiuxiangribenwenhuaxuezhedonghaoji“shujukuxiaofei”gainianzhongdemengyaosuyiyang，doushitongguoxindecailiao、xindewomenkandaodeneirongmanmandidiejiade。dajiazhiqianjuededabingdezheixietitleshiwanxiao，xianzaifaxianduoshaoyoudianzhenshi，neimemanmandizheixietitleyediejiadaotaderensheshangmianqule。tongguozheizhongmengyaosu，jinerbuduandirangdajiaduiguoqudeyinxiangjinxingfansi，duiyiqianderenshejinxingzhongzu，congercaihuiyourenshefanzhuan、fengpingfanzhuan，suoyiwoganjue，zhiyaozaigongzhongyanzhongbaochiyidingpuguangdu，niduoshaodouyoujihuilaishixianzheigefanzhuan。

尹清露：renshezheiyidianwoyehenyouganchu。wofaxiandazhongdui“renshebunengbengta”deyaoqiubingmeiyougaibian，fanershijiagulede，yinweidabingheliuxiaoqingqibenshenrenshebingmeiyoubianhua。zhengruluobeibeineipianwenzhangshuode，liuxiaoqingzhisuoyifanhong，hendayigeyuanyinjiushitayatouhenvhuangderenshezaifeiwenzhongyidiandoumeiyoubeng。wozuijinzaikan《yongyexinghe》，nvzhuyanyushuxinyeshiyigehenhaodelizi，yikaishidajiapipingta“zuo”，danzhujiandifaxiantabenshenjiushizheiyangdexinggehou，tadefengpingherenqiyeyinglailefanzhuanheshangsheng。

chucizhiwai，meijiedebianhuayeshiyuanyinzhiyi。guoqu，liuxiaoqingzhinengzuoweidianshimingxinghuozhemougejiaoseshenghuozaidianshimeijiezhong，dabingzeshitongguoshuzheiyimeijiebeishuzhi，errujinyijingshi《yulexinwenxiaoshi》shuzhongtidaode“wanghongluoji”le——zheibenshuzhichu，wanghongluojizhengzaixiangpingminhechuantongmingrenlianggelingyushentou，putongrenyeyaoxuezheyongwanghongdecelvehuodeguanzhu，mingrenyeyaoshiyongleisidejiqiaoweichirenqi，mingrenyijingcongyaoyuande、beiyaowangdejingyingchengweilerichangshenghuodechangjianbujian。

《yulexinwenxiaoshi》zuozheyanyanhairenwei，wanghongluojipujiqian，dianshimingxingshizhenzhengbeidongjiezaishijianlideren。dianshimingxinghedianyingmingxinghaiyouxiebutong，zhangziyizuoweidianyingmingxing，tayandejiaosedouhenbuyiyang，suoyitadegerenxinggehenxianming。raner，dianshimingxingzhinengyizhihuozairensheli，liru《wulinwaichuan》zhongshiyanbaizhantangdeshayi，zaicizhiqiantadexiluhenguang，danshiyanbaizhantangzhihou，tawulunzaiyanshenmedajiadouhuijuedetaxiangbaizhantang。tongyang，juzhongbaizhantangdexingweiyebunengchaochurenshe，biruzheiyijizhongtayouletaohuayunhuoshichaochurenshewaidebufen，zheileixijuchongtubixuzaiyijizhineibeijiejue。liuxiaoqingzaiwanghongluojimeiyoupujizhiqian，kenengyeyizhihuozaiyatouhuoqitadianshijujiaosederensheli，danxianzaizheigegudingdeshengtaiyijingbiandefensanle，tabuyongyidianshijulidejiaoseshiren，ershiyizhenshidezijimianduidazhong。

buguozhengruzhiqiansuoshuo，shijishang，liuxiaoqingderenshebingmeiyoufashengbengta。henduorenhuibaliuxiaoqinghetabanyanguodewuzetianleibi。jiemianwenhuaciqiandeyipianzhuanfangtidao，zaozaiqiannianzhiqian，wuzetianjiuyuanyiqu“yinqiyixiezhudisi·batelesuoshuode“xingbiemafan”（gender trouble）——qumohu、hunxiao、nuoyong、dianfu、cuanduo、qujie、zaidingyi、zhongxinzuhejizhongxinchanshixingbiejiaosejiqibeihoudeyiyi”。zheirangwoxiangdao，liuxiaoqingdezhongzhongshijiyeyinzhenglezheizhong“chaoqianxing”。tongyang，dabingneixiezaonianjian“hunjianghu”dedaodeminjianzhihui，rujinyehenshouwangyoudezhuipeng，ertaneizhonglangjitianyadexintaihexingxiang，yezaijintianbianchenglebaoguidedongxi。

03 “活人感”、“活人微死”和“死人微活”

董子琪：“huorengan”zheigecishuoqilaizhendehaoqiguai，renbudoushihuozhedema？nandaohaiyou“sirengan”ma？kenengshijuedeneiyulihenduorenbuneimeyougexing，meiyouneimeyoushengmingli，suoyibijiaozanshangzaoqideyixiefenggedengdeng。zheihenxiangshiduilusuode“gaoguiyemanren”（noble savage）dexiangwang，xiangwangzhewujuwushude、zaishehuizhuliuguizezhiwaide、shengjiboboshenzhiyoudianculudeneizhongxingxiang。wojideliuxiaoqingchuanbozuiguang、zuishouzhuipengdeyigexingxiang，jiushitashuo“ribenguizibaoluwodenianlingle”zheizhongbaocukoudenvxingxingxiang，dajiahuijuedezheizhongshigengjia“zhen”de。

zheileixingxiangzaixiandangdaizhongguoyingshijietingshouhuanyingde，nvxingjiaosezhongzheileixingxiangbijiaoshaoyixie，wonengxiangdaodeshixiaoyanzi、diaomangongzhu；nanxingjiaosezhongzheileixingxiangbijiaoduo，liru《woaiwojia》zheibujuli，geyouyandejichunshengjiushiyigebiaozhundecongnongcundaochengshideliumin，tadexingxiangqishishi：shenwusuobang，mankouhuangyan，shenzhimieshiquanwei、qishinvxing，fangzongzijideyuwang。houlaiwokangeyouwulunyanshenmejiaosedouyou“jichunsheng”zheigexingxiangdeyingzizai。chucizhiwai，jiangwenshiyandexuduojiaose，wangshuobixiadexuduorenwu（biru90niandaidianshiju《guobayin》liwangzhiwendejiaose）yedouyouzheileixingxiang，huibaocukou，jiangyixiezheigeshijiedezhenxiang，wojuedetingxianggangcailuqingshuode“jianghuqi”。

“jianghu”kenengbushimougedaijifamingchulaide，ershiyimairenwusuochongshangdeguiju，tongchanglaishuotamenshiyouminyiyangdejieceng，jiuxiangwangyuanhuayinyongguoduyaquandeguandian：zhongguoshehuishishangfeichangyouyingxianglideshiyouminzheipiren。suoyiwojuede，tamendagainengdaibiaoliuxiaoqinghuodabingbeihoudegaoguiyemanrendexiangxiang，suiranzaizheigechujingzhong，tamenbuzhidaozijiweishenmeyaozheiyang，danshitamenrengranxiandefeichanggaogui，genwenmingxuwei、henduotaolu、henduoguijudeshijiexingchenglexianmingdeduizhao。

buguoqizhongyehuiyouyixiewenti。cuyeruguofangdaledehuayehuirangrenbukanrenshou，suoyihaishiyaodiaohezaiyidingdefanweineirangrenjuedexihuan，buguanshixiaoyanzihaishiliuxiaoqing。wojuedegangcaiwenjieshuode“wenbendaoliezhe”yehenyoudaoli，bushidabinghuoliuxiaoqingtamenfashenglebianhua，ershidajiawenbendaoliedefangshihequweifashenglezhuanbian。

尹清露：woyikaishikandao“huorengan”zheigeci，xiangshuoshibushigen“chuge”chabuduo？biruwomenjuedemeiyoushenmexiwang，jiuqidaiyouyigechuhuyiliaoderenchuxian。ziqiwennandaohaiyou“sirengan”ma，wojuedegen“huorengan”xiangduidekenengshi“renji”。wojiushiyigejingchangbeitucaoxiang“renji”deren，birujingchanghuida“queshi”，anweibierendeshihouzhihuishuo“baobaonibiekule”、“baobaowobaobaoni，anweiyixianiba”zheiliangju。

huoxudangjishufazhandaorenkeyigenjiqiduihuadeshihou，qishibujinshijiqizaimofangren，renyezaimofangjiqi。zheishihoufanerhuirangwomengengzhenshiyixierendechugede、taoyichuqudeyixietezhi。

董子琪：wokanguoyibuliuxiaoqinghechenpeisiyandewanghaoweidaoyandedianying《qiaozheiyijiazi》，tashiyanyigeshouhuoyuan，yandefeichanghao。zheikenengzhendegenrendeqingganrongliang、gerenqizhiyouguanxi，tajiushiyigeneimexiaodepeijiao，yanyigeguoyingshangdianliduigukefeichangbunaifandeshouhuoyuan，danshitayizhibengfachuyinlingbandexiaosheng，feichangyoubiaozhixing，rangrenrenbuzhuyaokanta，jiushiyaoweiraozheta。neishihouliuxiaoqinghaihennianqing，yuanyuanmeiyoushenmenvhuangtezhi，danyiranhenxiyinren。

尹清露：haiyourenshuoliuxiaoqingzaiyibujulimiantongshiyanle8gejiao，zhendehenaiyanhahaha。qingganrongliangzheigecihaitingduide，tanenggourongxialaizheimeduoqinggan，suoyicainenggouyanyichubutongderen。

潘文捷：buzhidajiazuijinyoumeiyoukandaolianggeliuxingdecihui，“huorenweisi”he“sirenweihuo”。wozhiqiankanleyixie“huorenweisi”debiaoqingbao，shangmianhuixie“ruguoshijieshigequn，neiwoyijingtuile”、“yuanlaiwoshixuesheng，bushichusheng”、“meishide，shabusiwode，wohuizijisi”、“lingdaoshuowoben，xiaosi，congmingkeshilingwaidejiaqian”dengdengdiaokandeneirong，ganjuexianzaibulunshijilaoshihaishilaobandagong，dajiadoushiyizhong“huorenweisi”dezhuangtai，youyizhongxiangtangpingdanbudebubeilingdao“zhayixia”rangniqilaiganhuode“huorenweisi”gan。“sirenweihuo”jiushimorenzijiyijing“sile”，danshikandaobirulianzonglimiantiantiandetang，youhuiganjue“shitinuannuande”。zheiliangzhongzhuangtaigenyiqianyizhitaolunde“foxi”huozhe“tangping”yeyouxieguanlian。

zaitanhuiliuxiaoqing，tadeshenshangchulehuoli，haiyouyizhongnvxingshenshanghenshaojiandaode“diyixing”deganjue，tameiyouneizhongbeishenshideganjue，haoxiangmeiyoushoudaofuquanshehuidedaya。wohaixiangdaoneiying，tashiziqishuode“huibaocukoudenvxing”，jingdianyulushi“zuifanzhuangbideren”。wojinnianyekanle《geshou》，juedeneiyingchangdeyibanerqiehenlaopai，lepingrendoushuotachangdebuhao，tayouhenjinzhang，changgeyechucuo，danzuihouhaishinaleguanjun——zheigendajiahenxihuantayouguanxi，tajiushidiyixingdeganjue。

ciwaiwoyexiangwen：zheizhishigentamendexingbieyouguanma？haishigentamendejiecengyouguanxi？kenengdaoleneigeshehuijieceng，nikeyizuochuhenduoputongnvxingzuobuledeshiqing，haoxiangjishi“yemanren”danyouhengaogui。

徐鲁青：liuxiaoqingduiyudaduoshuquanliheguizedoubuzaihu，wokanletadeshu，shulimianyouyiduanshuo：wojingliguoxiaxiang，haiyougezhongyundong，wohaijinguoqinchengjianyu，danshiwoxianzaihaishinengzhanzaizheili。

潘文捷：woxiangdaolingyiweinvyanyuanchenchong，taheliuxiaoqingyiqiyanguo《xiaohua》，taliangdechabiehenda。chenchonghexuezheluoxinduitandeshihou，yizhishuozijiquefazhishi，“wohaoxiangbupeijidajiajiangwoshiyigemofanqingnian”，“weishenmedajiahuixihuanwo”，“tamenzaiwoshenshangkandaoleshenmewodoubuzhidao”。yinweitajialirenjuedeyanyuanbushiyigezhenshidezhiye，huiyongyigezhishifenzideyaoqiuquyaoqiuta。

董子琪：zheijiushiwenming（civilized）heyeman（savage）deduibi。

徐鲁青：huangshengyibamayeshizhishifenzi，tayehendaibiaowenming。

潘文捷：tataiwenmingle，suoyitajiu“sirenweihuo”le——huangshengyizai《zaijianairen4》lijiuyouyizhong“sigan”，henduoshihouyijuhuayebushuo。

徐鲁青：danshiwojuede，womenchangchangjiangzhishifenziheruanruobangdingzaiyiqi，zheishiyigeloudong。yiqianpidouzhishifenzideshihouhuishuo，nimenzhishifenzijiushiruanruo，jiushimeiyoubanfajiandingdigaizaoshijie。dajiahaoxianghenxihuanbayongyouzhishiheshifouruanruo、shifourongyigandaoxiuchilianxizaiyiqi，haoxiangcuodeshinibenshendushudutaiduo。

尹清露：dangran，xiayishirenweizhishirenruanruo，zheishiyizhongpianjian，yeyoufanzhideqingxiang，danwojuedeyoushihoudajiaqueshigengxuyaoyemandedongxi。henduonianqian，womenhuihenwenhediyongyixielilunjiangmuzhi，jiangnanxingyaogengjiacanyudaonvxingdezhaohuzhizhong，doushihenyoudaoli、xunxunshanyoudeganjue，keshixianzaiwofaxian，dajiaxuyaodeshiliuxiaoqingshuzhongxiede“wojinrunanrenshehui，caokongnanren，tongzhinanren”，shiyaoxianchengweitongzhijieji、xianzuoshanghuangdideweizhizaiqutangaibiandeyisi。suiranbunengwanquanleibi，danmeiguodaxuanzhongyouyijuhuarangwoyinxiangshenke，dayishi：“nishixiangqutingzuopaineixiedaomaoanrandekonghua，haishiquyoubianduyidujihui。”

潘文捷：quanlidoushiyaozhengduode，gemingbushiqingkechifan，ruguozhendeyaoquzhengduozheigequanyidehua，guochengzhongjiangdaolishijiangbuqingchude。《wenhuadeyanhua：minzhongdongjizhengzaizhongsushijie》zheibenshujiurenwei，zaizhengtishenghuonenggoudedaobaozhangdeshihou，dajiadeshengcunanquangandouhenqiangdeshihou，dazhonghuigengjiaqingxiangyuwenmingdishuoli；keyidanzaishengcunshangmianyouyali，dazhongjiuhuixiwangyouyigeweiquanderenlaiyindao。zheibenshufenxileweishenmerujinmeiguominzhongdoubuzaizhichizuopai，yinweixianzaidezuopaipaoqileyuanlaichuantongzuopaijiejidouzhengdedaolu，gaixianglewenhuashangdeyiti，erjinguanmeiguorencongshijieshijiaokanlaiyijiufuyou，danminzhongshiganjuededaoweixiede，baokuozhengtipinfuchajudekuoda、yiminqianglebufenrendegongzuodengdeng，tamenziwoganzhideweixiezaizengqiang。

尹清露：suoyiwulunshi“huorengan”haishi“gaoguideyeman”douxuyaoshidu，jiuxiangshizuoheyoudehuxiangqianzhi。zhibuguoxianzaikanlai，zaizheigedaochudoushi“huorenweisi”“sirenweihuo”deshihou，dajiahuigengqingxiangyuyemangan。